This week, Steve sits down with Cassidy Hall to discuss the power of queerness and silence. In this conversation, Cassidy describes her experienced with contemplative, toxic, and loving silences. She also explains the way that she sees and understands queerness. In fact, her new book is dedicated to “the queerness in all of us.” This book (“Queering Contemplation: Finding Queerness in the Roots and Future of Contemplative Spirituality”) releases on May 21, 2024—just two days after this episode drops!